Mormon Truth Podcast #16-An Interview With Jared, A Mormon Apologist-Part 3
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Well everyone, I'm finally back, with part 3 of this interview with Jared, the Mormon Apologist. In this part, we pick up where we left off in part 2, with Jared discussing the errors of the Bible to somehow justify the errors in the Mormon Church and Book of Mormon.
I still can't see the connection of how bashing Christianity or any other religion, helps prove Mormonism is true. I felt like I was in the twilight zone!!
Jared loves to compare the errors of Christianity to the errors in Mormonism, to justify and show that the Mormon Church is true. In other words, according to Jared, the screwed up Mormon Church is true, but the screwed up Christian Churches and the Bible, which are full of errors, upon which Mormonism is based, are all false.
Jared is welcome to respond in the comments of this podcast or he can Email me, if he feels that I'm misrepresenting what he was trying to say. I think the interview and his comments stand for themselves.
We then debate the translation process of the Book of Mormon and Jared disputes that it was "word for word" and impossible for errors to have been committed, despite the quotes we share. He does finally admit that the errors may have happened at the printing press...yeah right!!
Originally published May 3, 2006
Samuel the Utahnite
posted by Samuel the Utahnite @ 5/03/2006 11:22:00 PM
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Are you updating iTunes anymore? I don't see it yet.
I did listen to the podcast when Eric posted it. I think you and Eric did a great job. I just can't listen to it again like I have all the others, just because of Mr. Pretzel, Jared.
It was painful listening to him. Great listening to you, though.
It would have been preferable if Jared had talked about purple monkeys flying in the sky. I would have believed that before I could have believed any of the idiocies he blathered on about in the podcast.
AI usually listen to your podcasts several times. This one I just can't--unless you could repost it using a voiceover whenever Jared talks. Maybe you could just voice over him using South Park's "dum dum dum" playing softly in the background.
Honest to goodness that guy would have given Joseph his own 13 yr old daughter as a wife. He needs to do his own podcast. There are enough Mormons out there that would love to do the pretzel twist with him. As for me, listening to you once is enough Jared.
Hey Anon, thanks for the question. Yes I will be doing that very soon.
I've had to switch all of my podcasts over to a new host and by tomorrow afternoon, they will all be there, finally and updated, including podcast # 17, which is part 4 of the Apologist Jared interview
I didn't want to activate my new feed, until everything was set up, as it should be. I still have to submit about 8 of my shows, which will take several hours + and then we'll be good to go.
Thanks for your patience though and for asking what was up. I put some updates in the previous podcast comments, as to what was going on. I've had to revamp everything and it has taken much more time than I thought it would.
In the process of doing this, I've also increased the quality of all of my shows, as they are now at 64 kbps, due to not having size restrictions like I had at Ourmedia.
For those that want to keep all of my shows or listen to them again, I highly recommend deleting all of the shows that you have now and re-downloading them at the higher quality.
I know that some of you like to listen multiple times and so I just wanted you to know, that they sound better for you now.
Also, I have no limits on bandwidth, so re-downloading them will not cause me any bandwidth problems or extra costs.
So, it should be a better listening experience now and there will be no more delays in getting my shows on-line, especially on iTunes. Believe me, I'm as happy as you guys are, that we won't have any more of these problems.
Thanks so much for your support and things should run normally now, without the interruptions I've had, due to not being able to upload my shows. It must have been that damn Mormon God, who was trying to shut me down, but it didn't work...LOL!!
Take care and feel free to leave comments here anytime or email me if you have any questions.
I should have much more time now, to answer comments and Emails, without having to worry about massive tech and uploading problems.
So, like I said, by tomorrow afternoon, everything should be running like a well oiled machine, finally!!
Also, I'm sure that you have already noticed, but you can now stream my show right on my blog, or download the MP3 to your media player or PC or, finally, of course, listen and download them through iTunes, like many of you have been doing.
I just want it to be as easy as possible for everyone to hear the "Mormon Truth" and spread the good word to as many people as possible, in order to free them from the grips of the "Mormon cult."
I wrote this post earlier tonight and never published it. Anyway, since then, several of you have responded and I'll respond to you guys tomorrow or later on. Thanks for all of your comments and for listening.
I apologize Odiebytes for not getting back to you sooner, but I've been obsessed with getting all of my tech and hosting problems taken care of and that's about all I've been doing. I'll Email you tomorrow.
Take care everyone and tomorrow, I'll be putting out podcast #17, which is part 4 of this interview, which includes some great bonus discussion that we had after the show.
After that, I'll be resuming my podcasts with probably, at least 2 a week, now that I won't have any problem posting them for everyone.
I have some great things lined up, that you guys are gonna love, so please stay tuned and let me know what you think of the improvements of now being able to stream the show right on my blog, etc.
Take care everybody and I look forward to more of your comments and to making your experience here at Mormon Truth, the best one that you can have and as easy as possible to navigate.
Please spread the word to as many people and places as you can, as we reach a new level of growth and listenership, that are discovering the "truth and real facts of Mormonism", for the first time.
Thanks so much everybody,
Samuel
First, congratulations to Jared on his pending exit from the Mormon Church; there's only so much cognitive dissonance anyone can put up with.
Second, without going into too much detail, I don't think Jared's comparison of Mormon excommunication with Catholic excommunication is too valid. I think Mormon excommunication is used on an exponentially greater scale than it is used in the Catholic Church. In the Catholic Church I think one must do something very very bad and pretty much try to get excommunicated in order for that to happen. I don't think confessing your sins to a priest would ever result in an excommunication, as it might with a Mormon bishop. (A priest is automatically defrocked and excommunicated if he were to reveal the contents of a confession (I guess it's kind of a Catch-22)). Off of wikipedia here's a list things one can be excommunicated for as a Catholic:
1. Apostasy
2. Heresy
3. Schism
4. Simony
5. Desecration of the Eucharist
6. Physical force against the pope
7. Attempted sacramental absolution of a partner in adultery
8. Ordination of a bishop without a Papal mandate
9. For non-electors present in the conclave, revelation of the details of the conclave
10. Simoniacal provision of the Papal office
11. Violation of the sacramental seal of confession by a priest or bishop
12. Procurement of a completed abortion.
I find it hilarious that I cannot or wouldn't know how to go about doing numbers 4, 8, 9, 10, and 11. And I think most people wouldn't have the desire to do numbers 5, 6, 7, and 12.
In both churches it's a motivator by fear; but I think it's more of a social tool in Mormonism considering it's massive presence amongst the normal masses and the ability for a local authority to dish it out relatively easily. (What Mormon wants to be labeled an associated of an excommunicate)?
Personally, I think disfellowshipment and excommunication in the Mormon Church is a very public form of punishment. Considering the small sizes' of wards, everyone notices if someone doesn't take the sacrament. Then the gossip starts and the excommunicate's family is taken down a notch in the ward's social hierarchy.
I hope my thoughts are not too all over the place.
What's the deal with iTunes?
Thanks for the podcast Samuel.
Where is episode 17? It has been over a week since you said you would be putting it up "tomorrow". I look forward to hearing it.
iTunes fixed, sweet.
For any of the listeners who are interested, I will post my full comments in the comment section after part 4.
I just wanted to wait until all parts had been played before commenting on this experience.
Regarding the Book of Mormon changes from Mother of God to “son of God” Jared is ignoring the evolutionary development of the Godhead in Mormonism. I am currently working on a dissertation on that subject. For the short version see my webpage at http://www.geocities.com/exmormon2000/godhead.html. I have also extensively researched the seer stone in the hat act and you might want to check out my essay here: http://www.geocities.com/exmormon2000/seerstone.html.
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