Mormon Truth Podcast #15-An Interview With Jared, A Mormon Apologist-Part 2

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Okay guys and gals, this is part 2 out of 4, of the interview that Eric(Living Truth Podcast) and I did with Jared, who is a Mormon Apologist. Jared is also a great guy who strongly believes in his faith and can usually find an explanation for most anything.

I do give Jared credit though, for coming on the show with us and at least being able to admit some of the faults that are in the Church; but then, unfortunately, he has to explain them away and tell us why they are okay, or don't impact his overall testimony. Jared is a very nice friendly guy, but we do have to agree to disagree on about every subject.

In Part 2, we pick up where we left off in part 1, continuing our discussion of "The Book of Mormon" and the lack of any evidence whatsoever of "The Book of Mormon", the people, their cities, etc. Jared likes to point out the errors and discrepancies in the Bible, in order to justify the errors and problems in the Book of Mormon and Mormonism in general.

Jared admits that it doesn't matter if they ever find any archaeological evidence of The Book of Mormon and that it wouldn't affect his testimony one way or the other. I say that if you have to claim the Bible to be so wrong, in order to justify that Mormonism and The Book of Mormon are okay with so many screwed up things and errors, why would your wrong be right?

Jared likes to refer to current and past teachings of Apostles and Prophets, as "statements, opinions, traditions, their personal beliefs, or whatever", but that it doesn't mean that it's truth. I honestly have no idea how Jared, or most apologists, determine what Mormon doctrine is or isn't, due to the fact that nobody ever really knows when these so called Prophets and Apostles are speaking for God, or just sharing their personal opinion. In my opinion, it's ridiculous!!

At one point, both Jared and I are astounded at each others views and express that to each other. There is much more to this part 2 and I really hope that you guys enjoy this episode, as much as we did making it for you.

Also, I will be putting out parts 3 and 4 later on today, so that everyone can hear how the rest of this interview went.

Also, here is the link I promised at the beginning of the podcast, with the quotes about not being able to get into heaven, without believing in Joseph Smith.

Here is the link to the post I did, that was a tribute to the "Joseph Smith Nativity Scene" down at BYU, this past Christmas.

Also, one more link, while we are on the subject, is my "Merry Smithmas(Christmas) tribute" to Joseph Smith, with some more POWERFUL, BOSOM BURNING pictures of the "Joseph Smith Nativity Scene." It even includes the Moroni, birds-eye view of the plastic baby Joseph Smith and it's just amazing.

Thanks again everyone for all of your support and please leave comments on what you think of this podcast. Also, if you haven't taken a minute or two and added yourself to my frapper map, please do so, as I would love to know where all you guys are located.

Samuel the Utahnite

Mormon Truth Podcast #14-An Interview With Jared, A Mormon Apologist-Part 1

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This is part 1 of 4, of an interview with a guy named Jared. Eric(a very fanatical Evangelical), from "The Living Truth Podcast", invited both Jared and myself, onto his show, so that we could all share our views on Mormonism. Jared is a current, faithful, active, member of the Mormon Church and wanted to explain his view on things and where Eric and I are going wrong in our analysis of the Mormon Church. javascript:void(0)

In part 1, Jared explains why he wanted to come on the show with both of us, and he also gives his description of how the Mormon Church came to be. We discussed the First Vision, the apostasy, and the differences between the Bible and Book of Mormon. We also discussed the fact that God the Father lives on or near Kolob and has polygamous wives, according to official Mormon doctrine.

Eric and I also brought up the fact that there is not one shred of "REAL" evidence, of any kind, of the Book of Mormon people, battles, wars, cities, etc, especially in and around the Hill Cumorah in New York, where it should be plentiful. We also asked Jared who the Lamanites are and where they are located, since the Book of Mormon was written primarily and specifically for them, according to the title page. I think that you guys will really enjoy this a lot!!

Thanks again everyone for listening and stay tuned for parts 2-4, coming soon.

Samuel the Utahnite

Mormon Truth Podcast #13-Interview with Living Truth's Eric-Part 2

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This is part 2 of my podcast with "The Living Truth's" Eric, who is doing an outstanding job by the way. I'm always amazed, at how great his knowledge is, regarding all things Mormon, which in most cases, easily surpasses the knowledge of most members and certainly the apologists. At least Eric is able to use his brain and logic, to see things plainly and exactly the way they are, unlike the Mopologists like FARMS "Daniel C. Peterson" or FAIRS "John Lynch."

We talk about a lot of things in this part 2, including my journey to the truth and out of Mormonism, which included a big dose of Cognitive dissonance, along that path, as I tried to reconcile what I was finding with what I had been taught all my life. We discussed Darron Smith and the article in the Salt Lake City Weekly, which was really the impetus, that got me onto the path that I'm on now. That led me to Hinckley's interviews, which we discuss, along with polygamy and many other things.

We also discussed exactly "what is a special witness of Jesus Christ", since that is what the Apostles and Prophets, refer to themselves as. I also discuss my feelings on leaving the Mormon cult and the impact that it has had on me emotionally, spiritually and also in regard to my family and friends.

I Just want to give a big shout out to Eric and say thanks again for having me on your podcast!! Let's do it again soon!!

Also, at the beginning of this podcast, I play the "actual audio" of Gordon B. Hinckley, the current Mormon Prophet's words, from this past Saturdays General Priesthood Session, regarding racism. I also give a few comments on what I think about the situation.

Here is a link to John Dehlin's Mormon Stories site, where he has posted a 3 part interview with Darron Smith. Also, I've left two comments there and I would encourage any of you that are interested in this subject, of the Mormon Church's racism, to leave your feelings there also, when you get the chance.

There is also another link, where Darron Smith is currently in discussion with everyone, regarding his podcast, and you can leave comments there as well, for him, or in response to others, with many TBMS, who have a lot to say, some good, some ridiculous.

Also, here is the link to the post I just wrote over on my Mormon Truth blog, regarding the Mormon Church's incredible history and doctrines of racism, all the way back to Joseph Smith. I'm hoping that Hinckley will read it, so that he can "UNDERSTAND", where this racism coming from!!

Samuel the Utahnite